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I don't see the point of debating this anyway. EB has been known for down grading their software and taking out features. 2003 has a couple features that need to be scripted in order to work in RMXP or VX/ACE. PLus seeing how finding a scripter willing and able to do the task is not as simple as people on RMXP forums make it sound.
Plus I see no reason in asking a dumb question like: why would anyone waste there time with this prehistoric junk regardless of its fanbase when RMXP VX/VXAce?
By nature VX also has prehistoric features and ACE is a paid update for VX so why buy it?
See...dumb question because even though I hate VX/ACE I know the reason why people bought ACE...or in my opinion wasted their money (but that's for a different discussion).
I mean heck if they not only released it, but added scripting to it I would buy it. XP and 2003 are my favorite out of the entire RPG Maker series (PC version).
Plus here is another question...Why buy VX when it can do everything XP can? Why buy ACE when VX and XP can do everything it can? Putting the updated scripting aside (which is the only real major difference) and they pretty much the same.
I think sitting here debatting who would buy it because it is old is stupid!
So by the logic of some people in this topic I'm stupid because I bought an NES (Nintendo) when I could get a Wii?
The Wii is better in power and processing so why get a an old NES?
That's how dumb I feel this discussion/debate it...
I'll sign it instead of asking pointless questions!
v/Respectfully,
Noob Saibot
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In Topic: We should kill sick people.
25 March 2012 - 06:50 AM
Marked, on 25 March 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:
She's Australian and healthcare is payed for taxes.. you seemed to get really worked up by what you call "putting a price on a human life", but the health system in the US pretty much does that. That wasn't a bad point that she made.. I mean aside from what's causing the health issues, if a person does something stupid (like smoking) then its all the people who have to pay for their chemo treatment, etc. when they get cancer.
The other point I disagree with is that a country can care for itself. Not every country is blessed with natural resources. Australia certainly is. And if its oil, its difficult with an invasion going on. If they rely on water and things and there's a drought and nothing grows, etc. etc. That's pretty unfair to say that. But yeah, no other country is responsible.
The 911 thing was a bit over the top. But yeah she's got some messed up views. I call troll.
The other point I disagree with is that a country can care for itself. Not every country is blessed with natural resources. Australia certainly is. And if its oil, its difficult with an invasion going on. If they rely on water and things and there's a drought and nothing grows, etc. etc. That's pretty unfair to say that. But yeah, no other country is responsible.
The 911 thing was a bit over the top. But yeah she's got some messed up views. I call troll.
1) US health care is also paid in taxes.
2) Yes PEOPLE in general put a price on life, but the point was to the statement she made.
3) So who care is they caused it. Other smokers, etc help to pay the tax as well.
4) A country can care for itself it if it chooses to. I know not all can, but for some if the people stood together they could make a change. Plus my point was simply to justify that I or others who eat meat is not the reason for others hunger or lack of water.
5) More then a Troll; that is how she feels. Even some of her viewers say her OPINION is over the top.
ForeverZer0, on 25 March 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:
I think it is a bad point, and that's coming from a hardcore advocate of each person getting what they earned themselves, and having nothing but contempt for government handouts to the undeserving. Aside from being born with a condition that requires special health care, pretty much any sort of disease or anything can be attributed to a lifestyle choice, so you can't pick and choose who is more deserving or not. If someone eats too much sugar, and they develop diabetes, knowing that increases the risk, what makes them more deserving than someone who smokes, knowing that smoking increases the chances of lung cancer? Who decides what people and lifestyle choices are acceptable and not? Its a fine line, and there is no set of rules that would not leave gaping wholes for people to fall through the cracks. That point aside, I am unaware of health care conditions in Australia, but tax-dollars are not paying for people's chemo-treatment and organ transplants left and right in the U.S., hence we have people protesting health care costs and pushing for government funded health care so that people can afford to have these things for "free".
All in all, I disagree with nearly everything she says, and I'm with Marked, she seems to be a troll. A misguided and sincere one, but nonetheless, a troll.
All in all, I disagree with nearly everything she says, and I'm with Marked, she seems to be a troll. A misguided and sincere one, but nonetheless, a troll.
Most people who are diabetes are born with it as just like being heavy set is also genetic. Plus another example would be babies simply because they can't control what their mother does. Plus people who smoke also pay taxes.
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Plus on a side note some of these people bring religion into the mix and make claims like its a sin to eat meat...not sure who they worship.
In Topic: RPG Maker VX ACE trial released - direct download here
18 March 2012 - 09:15 AM
kellessdee, on 17 March 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:
I think 90$ is a fair price tag. You aren't paying for ruby, you are paying for:
A) A GUI-based click and point game development tool, which also has a pre-programmed 2D game engine WITH source code
B) A fully-functional 2D game library/API (rgss3)
C) A full set a resources for you to use in your game
D) A complete license for using and SELLING games made with all of the above.
Yes, ruby is free, but ruby alone cannot make games. There are free libraries/api's for ruby to make games, but you have to build the engine, resources, etc from scratch with no click and point programming.
A little bit more than a crappy modern game, plus it's a tool that can be used to make money. With a proper plan, that could be made back and then some.
Consider: 5$ a copy of your game, 20 copies and you've already made profit. And if the game is good and advertised properly, 20 copies is nothing. sell your game for a 1$, and I bet it wouldn't be hard to sell 1000 copies. $90 -> $1000 is pretty good, especially when 90% of the work is already done for you.
And people DO buy rpg maker games: http://www.rpgfan.co...yond/index.html
But, that's just how I feel about it. At the end of the day however, there are many free tools that achieve similar goals as rpg maker; that are more powerful and free.
*yawn* RPG Maker XP is released, people complain it's too hard to use, so Enterbrain simplifies everything and makes VX. Then people complain it's missing too many features from XP. So, they bring them back with VXA. And, with RGSS + Ruby you aren't even forced to USE their systems. So there isn't really any limits either...
Also, look at Visual Studio 2010:
http://www.microsoft...sional/overview
On sale for $499! And all you get is an IDE (well, its a lot of powerful things but you don't get half the things that RPG Maker gives you)
Of course, once again, this is just my opinion. I had no plans on buying VXAce, but I DO think it's a fair price tag. And I DO think it can only lead to good things for the RPG Maker series.
I'm stoked to see what scripts people will come up with for the new series
A) A GUI-based click and point game development tool, which also has a pre-programmed 2D game engine WITH source code
B) A fully-functional 2D game library/API (rgss3)
C) A full set a resources for you to use in your game
D) A complete license for using and SELLING games made with all of the above.
Yes, ruby is free, but ruby alone cannot make games. There are free libraries/api's for ruby to make games, but you have to build the engine, resources, etc from scratch with no click and point programming.
A little bit more than a crappy modern game, plus it's a tool that can be used to make money. With a proper plan, that could be made back and then some.
Consider: 5$ a copy of your game, 20 copies and you've already made profit. And if the game is good and advertised properly, 20 copies is nothing. sell your game for a 1$, and I bet it wouldn't be hard to sell 1000 copies. $90 -> $1000 is pretty good, especially when 90% of the work is already done for you.
And people DO buy rpg maker games: http://www.rpgfan.co...yond/index.html
But, that's just how I feel about it. At the end of the day however, there are many free tools that achieve similar goals as rpg maker; that are more powerful and free.
*yawn* RPG Maker XP is released, people complain it's too hard to use, so Enterbrain simplifies everything and makes VX. Then people complain it's missing too many features from XP. So, they bring them back with VXA. And, with RGSS + Ruby you aren't even forced to USE their systems. So there isn't really any limits either...
Also, look at Visual Studio 2010:
http://www.microsoft...sional/overview
On sale for $499! And all you get is an IDE (well, its a lot of powerful things but you don't get half the things that RPG Maker gives you)
Of course, once again, this is just my opinion. I had no plans on buying VXAce, but I DO think it's a fair price tag. And I DO think it can only lead to good things for the RPG Maker series.
I'm stoked to see what scripts people will come up with for the new series
I disagree. I know what the features are and again they couldn't even at least call it something else. An updated version of VX no matter how you sugar coat it. Plus $90 I must disagree; I managed to get Torque 2D Builder for $99 and that is a good price and more powerful then RM.
I'm not saying I wouldn't get it, because who knows the trail could change my mind, but either way still a paid update.
As for Visual Studio 2010; I have the Professional version (which like over $5,000) and got it for free well in college (can't wait for that semester to start).
In Topic: RPG Maker VX ACE trial released - direct download here
17 March 2012 - 09:13 AM
Polraudio, on 17 March 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:
Wow 217mb. Better be worth it lol. Thats huge compared to XP.
Cant wait to try it. Hopefully its better than VX. OMG $90 to buy.
Cant wait to try it. Hopefully its better than VX. OMG $90 to buy.
$90 for a gloated updated version of VX. So unoriginal they couldn't even come up with a new name.
