forcebreaker, on 23 January 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:
ok im still farely new, so this is a valid question for me. What the heck are points for?
They are mainly for messing around in here:
http://www.rmxpunlim....net/other/shop
Polraudio, on 23 January 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:
Maybe we should do a points wipe once GDU opens up to ensure the points economy is at a ballance. Right now points are kind of useless because most people have tons.I berly did much to get most of mine and yet i have 36k points.
This was the plan from the beginning. We could start at zero for everyone. But what I was thinking is actually calculate the points like the system was always in place, ie start by giving every member a point for each post, then 2 points for each topic, etc. until they have the amount of points they should have earned under this new system. Interest will kill the system obviously, so that's going.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
1. Will the number of reputation points a user can assign be limited by day, week, or month in order to avoid exploitation?
I hadn’t planned on a limitation of reputation points. Without the incentive of points, members largely ignore the reputation system and I don’t expect that to change because there is nothing in it for those giving the rep. The exploitation is in the members 2
nd account, where he/she will go around rep’ing all the other accounts posts. This is relatively easy to spot. A member receiving reps of all his posts that are average to begin with. When can find which account gave the rep and cross check the IP, remove the rep and points.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
2.I personally think that points for pictures should not be given at all, people will still contribute and upload as they do now, but won't be inclined to attempt to exploit the system by uploading work they do not own.
Same with audio, although people do make unique forms of music, there is so much free rights stuff out there that it would be very easy to upload audio without others ever knowing where it came from. See number 6 for explanation.
I suppose with these very easily exploitable uploads, there is a tradeoff between stopping the exploitation and rewarding the honest uploaders hard work. I still do want to offer incentives for artists to upload. The only thing stopping me from having the author only upload there work is my doubts about whether than can succeed. So this is really problematic
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
3.I am not sure how the referral system would work, but I would hope the person referred would need to be active for X amount of time after the referral for the person who invited to get any points. Otherwise I see massive room to exploit this system. Or even better only award points to referrals where the person then subscribes(may be how you want it already).
It would be a registration link that would give us the referrers ID and therefore we could give them points. We could advise them to place the link in their signatures on other forums, so any registration through that link would give that user points. When I think about this… just linking to the site is a positive thing, so as long as set the points correctly I don’t think it can be easily exploited. Unless you are thinking that same member creates accounts through his link? I think we can stop that. Either through checking the IP, or by using a cookie to determine the referral.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
4.The gems and crystals idea is a good one as well. Will points still be trade-able, in other words will there be a sub economy between the users for points? So will 5 people be able to pool their points and use one account for their subscription purposes?
Yup, if they wanted to give their points up to one member. Members will be able to exchange points as they please.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
5.Will users still be allowed to submit their own shops for creation or is the job section sort of a more effective reverse of this?
If so, will it be possible to make a needed job as a user and offer my own points as payment for the completed job.
I think the question is will the jobs system replace the current shops forum? The answer to that is yes. Ahh.. I never thought of making a job requests system. That’s a good idea J I think we should definitely include that in the jobs section.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
6.As a user will I be able to add content(Games/Media) to GDU and then offer it for sale for GDU points which are given to me when the game is 'bought'? (This way instead of awarding points for submitting pictures and audio you can simply allow the users to 'sell' their graphics and audio for GDU points)
I’m not too sure about selling resources for points. Firstly, I want guests to be able to take resources they need from the site. I don’t believe in having an account to block them, because 1. Less people are going to get the resources because not everyone will be bothered making an account and 2. Those who make an account will make it, take the resources and go, wasting database space. There’s just no point to that. Secondly I want to accommodate commercial game makers so there will be possibility of selling their stuff for actual money. In making this site I am assuming that it will be popular enough for such a system, there is no point in spending all this developing something and assuming its not going to be popular enough for certain features.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
7.Obviously a subscription can be bought with real life currency, and GDU points are earned, Gems are bought with GDU points, and gems trade for subscription status. But can GDU points ever be bought with real life currency?
That’s a possibility. I guess that would have to come in way down the track, once the points system is properly collaborated. It will take several long months to get the system where the points received per type of content is the best possible amount of points, and that they are properly valuable (rare) enough, just like money, to price things like gems and crystals. Its like supply and demand in economics, we may have to alter the price of what’s for sale to accompany the amount of points in circulation.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
Suggestions for subscription benefits.
- GDU point discount, X% off all products on site that cost GDU points.
- X amount of dedicated file hosting(not sure if this is possible), but would allow people to launch their game through the site.(have it done per file, and by size, so like X number of files and no more than X amount of mb)
- Automatic entry into a monthly contest where you award either a product you sell(for points) to the winner for free, or possibly reinvest some of the money from subscriptions into an awards system, maybe send a T-Shirt with site logo on it, or a mug, etc. Vista Print, is an excellent site for that stuff.
- Not sure if the chat room will have a size limit but, gauranteed place in the chat room.
- Asthetic bonuses, ability to change(color) and customize(font) your forum name, Forum Avatar border, animated gifs avatars enabled, and other minor things, much like other sites.
- Higher reputation awarding cap(see number 1).
- Help Desk-Using your already exisiting staff, or hiring/volunteers(pay in points or real money) whatever spots needed, make a team of 'experts' the subscribers would have access to. You would tell the subscribers to post their problem in the form of a thread much like normal but allow them to select from a list of experts by title(scripting, eventing, graphical, audio, etc.) to assign the problem to. The expert(s) would then recieve an email and be able to contact the person with the problem in order to render assistance. Alot of the time the problem might even already be solved. If the problem remains unsolved by the community, the subscriber is then contacted by the suggested expert(or next available one) and together they decide a time for a metting, they meet in chat or where ever agreed upon and the expert helps them the best they can. As far as paying the experts, which ever currency you choose, you could have it be a case by case scenario where first come first serve gets paid.
There’s some really useful ideas in here J One idea I had hours before reading this, was just like the layout/customization idea you had: “Asthetic bonuses, ability to change(color) and customize(font) your forum name,”. My idea was actually that you ‘unlock’ these as your post count gets higher. But what we could do instead is use points and you permanently unlock these features on your account. I had always planned a high level of design customizability. So yeah, I think this would be a really cool feature.
Jon Bon, on 23 January 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:
I have been dying for a good game making subscription site, and unlimited seems to be shaping into what I am looking for, I knew I picked the right community, keep up the excellent work Marked and staff.
We still have a very long road ahead of us before GDU really comes to life, but I hope it fulfils all your expectations. We are certainly aiming high.
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